{"id":3600,"date":"2016-02-03T16:29:48","date_gmt":"2016-02-03T15:29:48","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.edimentals.com\/blog\/?page_id=3600"},"modified":"2020-06-15T10:30:37","modified_gmt":"2020-06-15T08:30:37","slug":"perennial-thicket-bean","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"http:\/\/www.edimentals.com\/blog\/?page_id=3600","title":{"rendered":"Perennial thicket bean"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I\u2019m a bit late trying <em>Phaseolus polystachios<\/em>, Thicket Bean or Wild Kidney Bean, a North American climbing perennial bean that has been discussed in permaculture breeding circles over the last few years, notably\u00a0 on the following \u00a0old Homegrown Goodness forum \u00a0threads<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/alanbishop.proboards.com\/thread\/7692\/breeding-perennial-wild-phaseolus-polystachios\">http:\/\/alanbishop.proboards.com\/thread\/7692\/breeding-perennial-wild-phaseolus-polystachios<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/alanbishop.proboards.com\/thread\/4485\">http:\/\/alanbishop.proboards.com\/thread\/4485<\/a> (sidetracking into Hablitzia and skirret)<\/p>\n<p>Jonathan Bates, who is part of the Hablitzia story in my book, of Food Forest Farm, and one of the two \u201cgeeks\u201d in Paradise Lot with Eric Toensmeier kindly sent me seed in exchange for <em>Aster scaber<\/em> and <em>Ligularia fischeri<\/em>!\u00a0 Jonathan and Eric Toensmeier\u2019s plants are now about 6 years old and they have been advocating a breeding project for some time\u2026.as have pioneers Nicolas Moreau, Rob Wagner, Telsing Andrews, Alison Tindale and Chris Homanics! It would be great to have a perennial bean (although a breeding project on Siberian Pea Vine might be a better option for my area). \u00a0It has also been suggested that crossing with runner bean (<em>P. coccineus<\/em>) might be possible. Although runner bean is perennial, it\u2019s not easy to overwinter in colder climates (has anyone succeeded?).<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_3606\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-3606\" style=\"width: 800px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.edimentals.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/P1510881.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-3606 size-full\" src=\"http:\/\/www.edimentals.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/P1510881.jpg\" alt=\"P1510881\" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.edimentals.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/P1510881.jpg 800w, http:\/\/www.edimentals.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/P1510881-300x225.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-3606\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Love the &#8220;seed packet&#8221; Jonathan Bates!!<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>The seeds are so far rather small. Eric describes the plant as \u201cliking partial shade and a big shrub or trellis to climb on &#8211; it can grow to 9-12&#8242; high by year 2 or 3\u201d. There\u2019s also a thread discussing this on the Plant Breeding for Permaculture forum.<br \/>\nEric: do you know the provenance of your plants? It grows in the wild from Florida as far north as Michigan (Great Lakes) I believe.<a href=\"http:\/\/www.edimentals.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/P1510884.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft wp-image-3605 size-full\" src=\"http:\/\/www.edimentals.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/P1510884.jpg\" alt=\"P1510884\" width=\"1000\" height=\"750\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.edimentals.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/P1510884.jpg 1000w, http:\/\/www.edimentals.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/P1510884-300x225.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1000px) 100vw, 1000px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.edimentals.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/P1510889.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft wp-image-3602 size-full\" src=\"http:\/\/www.edimentals.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/P1510889.jpg\" alt=\"P1510889\" width=\"543\" height=\"559\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.edimentals.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/P1510889.jpg 543w, http:\/\/www.edimentals.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/P1510889-291x300.jpg 291w, http:\/\/www.edimentals.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/P1510889-300x309.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 543px) 100vw, 543px\" \/><\/a><a href=\"http:\/\/www.edimentals.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/P1510888.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft wp-image-3603 size-full\" src=\"http:\/\/www.edimentals.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/P1510888.jpg\" alt=\"P1510888\" width=\"439\" height=\"496\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.edimentals.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/P1510888.jpg 439w, http:\/\/www.edimentals.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/P1510888-266x300.jpg 266w, http:\/\/www.edimentals.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/P1510888-300x339.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 439px) 100vw, 439px\" \/><\/a><a href=\"http:\/\/www.edimentals.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/P1510890.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft wp-image-3604 size-full\" src=\"http:\/\/www.edimentals.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/P1510890.jpg\" alt=\"P1510890\" width=\"1000\" height=\"462\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.edimentals.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/P1510890.jpg 1000w, http:\/\/www.edimentals.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/P1510890-300x139.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1000px) 100vw, 1000px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I\u2019m a bit late trying Phaseolus polystachios, Thicket Bean or Wild Kidney Bean, a North American climbing perennial bean that has been discussed in permaculture breeding circles over [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"parent":0,"menu_order":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","template":"","meta":{"cybocfi_hide_featured_image":"","footnotes":""},"class_list":["post-3600","page","type-page","status-publish","hentry"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.edimentals.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages\/3600","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.edimentals.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.edimentals.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/page"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.edimentals.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.edimentals.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=3600"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"http:\/\/www.edimentals.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages\/3600\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":25750,"href":"http:\/\/www.edimentals.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages\/3600\/revisions\/25750"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.edimentals.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=3600"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}